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    There's No Sensible Reason As To Why We Can't Use iPads And Kindles During Takeoff & Landing

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    imageThere's No Sensible Reason As To Why We Can't Use iPads And Kindles During Takeoff & Landing

    Around a month ago, New York Times writer Nick Bilton wrote a column wondering, why flight passengers have to switch off electronic devices like laptops, Kindles, iPads during take-off and landing.



    He argued that, if electronic devices did indeed hamper with the functioning of an aircraft during take-off or landing, there should have been some casualty because of people using these devices. Fortunately there weren't any such incidents.

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    • MO3iusONEMO3iusONE Posts: 4
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      Better safe than sorry, but in all honesty, I dont see what the big deal is. Shut it off for 10 or so minutes then enjoy using your electronic device the rest of the flight once your allowed to do so. Better yet, can we also complain about not being able to have our backpacks or purses on our laps while the plane takes off as well?
    • EricEric Posts: 238
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      I'm a pilot myself. The reason the FAA does not allow them during take off and landing is that EVERY electronic device, from every last 80's Walkman out there, to the every version of the iPad and all mp3 players. This includes all models of DVD players, e-readers, and laptops. They would all have to be tested and certified safe with the FAA. It's simply easier to have a blanket ban on all of them. Also, there is nothing that interferes with our navigational equipment. I know because I use my iPhone and laptop all the time during takeoff and landing in the cockpit...
    • Jo3Jo3 Posts: 2
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    • SteveSteve Posts: 326
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      I never turn off. Never
    • BDog GrizzlyBDog Grizzly Posts: 3
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      The point of the matter is there is no evidence that the aircraft will suffer any harm whilst people are using their devices. And to be honest I HATE taking off and landing. I need something to distract me from my fears of crashing and burning on either the way up or down. So people like me need the ability to use their devices to help them through the stress of each instance. This whole mess is meirly they F.A.A. flexing their authority muscles just to be a*sholes. Same reason why they don't allow people to use electronic cigarettes on aircraft because it "bothers" the other passengers. And being a person that uses my electronic cig religiously and highly frequently I am pissed that they enforce that idiotic rule too. Not one person I have EVER flown next to even ONCE complained my e-cig smelled. They actually enjoyed the smell because I use a Mint-Chocolate Chip blend. The F.A.A. is nothing more than moronic a*sholes who think that because they have power they have to use it every f*cking chance they get. Meirly another corrupt Federal institution.
    • GregGreg Posts: 106
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      AGREED. Americans do not want to be told what to do even if it's just for 10 minutes.
    • JoeJoe Posts: 450
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      well your just a prat then. you know better than anyone else. duhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
    • geekinitgeekinit Posts: 65
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      It would be hard to regulate specific devices be turned off while others remain on. Occassionally I read that some devices catch fire in flight and they wouldn't want this during take off or landing. I just wish more airlines would provide Internet and 12v power during flight. That's my primary complaint. :)
    • LarryLarry Posts: 54
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      Flying is a privileged, not a right. Like driving. Quit complaining and turn off the devices.
    • WilsonWilson Posts: 5
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      With respect to the use of commercial electronic devices on passenger planes the following should be considered. The FAA should publish the electronic standards required of these devices in order to meet safety standards and the devise manufactures should certify that these devises meet these standards.To date, the FAA has failed to provide any scientific basis for failing to accept the use of iPads, iPods, MP3 players etc. Their response has been subjective and woefully lacking a sound scientific basis.
    • BobBob Posts: 183
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      We have a right to question rules. We live with thousands of rules. If we never got rid of those that don't or no longer make sense, our lives just become more and more constrained.The irony of this rule, as Steve implies, is not that the device has to be off (because that is never enforced). The effective rule is that we are not allowed to openly read the device while it is on.
    • RounakRounak Posts: 269
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    • Steve WallachSteve Wallach Posts: 1
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      The issue is not electronic interference, the issue is distraction. The two most critical times in flying a commercial airliner are take-off and landing. During these times most systems in the aircraft are performing at their maximum performance capability, including the engines. This is when, if something is going to happen, engine failure, wind shear, system failure, etc., it is most likely to happen. Split second decisions are made to abort and possibly evacuate. Aircraft are certified, i.e. demonstrated, that they can be fully evacuated with a full passenger load, 50% of exits blocked and a percentage of ambulatory passengers within 90 seconds of the first door being blown. Anyone left after 90 seconds is assumed to have perished. Cell phones, iPads, iPods, etc. are a distraction that could put you in the beyond 90 second category. Next time you fly, look around and notice the people who read the evacuation card, take their inflight headsets off, and give a last tug to that seat belt just prior to take-off or landing. Chances are they're an airline employee who fully understands the risks of take-off and landing and don't want to be counted in the +90 seconds group. Those who ignore the warnings, in an emergency, are good candidates for the Darwin award.
    • DiablozoeDiablozoe Posts: 76
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      They dont need a reason!! They said turn it off! So turn it off!
    • SteveSteve Posts: 326
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      As an addendum, the iPads pilots are being issued when onboard are hard wired to the aircraft and do not use the wireless function. They are portable, and pilots remove them when leaving in order to update manuals, charts, etc. They are also specially modified preventing other than very specific flight related apps from being downloaded and installed. Besides, who would want anything otherwise on a company provided piece of equipment that can be monitored anytime, anywhere.
    • AnthonyAnthony Posts: 66
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      This is a very interesting because it surprises me how many experts post on here, wow! Just because there hasn't been an actual incident doesn't mean anything. There are most likely things in the background to consider that the experts on this site have not considered. For example, take off and landing are two events where there is minimal supervision. What if a terrorist decides to blow his iPad at that time? Just because you don't know the reason for the rules doesn't mean they are doing it to "flex their muscle". Those of who complain about the electronics and the rebels who are too cool to turn off their devices; why don't you do something that only endangers you own life? Like don't buckle your seatbelt, or really be "hard" and use the bathroom during take off & landing. I bet you won't.Example 1: at the gas station while pumping gas there is a sign to not use cellular devices, although I have not heard of someone dying that way, go ahead and try it you rebel you.Example 2: in the ICU at the hospital cell signals do cause problems with heart reading equipment and pace makers to the point that could cause death. I'm sure you wouldn't mind though because it doesn't harm you, only others.Electronics have been shown to cause problems in other scenarios, so just turn them off for a couple minutes, seriously what is the big deal.
    • Frosti7Frosti7 Posts: 36
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      10 minutes?I've flown a few worldwide airlines, they all didnt allow the use of computer all flight
    • RcasRcas Posts: 53
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      I actually was talking to my girlfriend about this the other week ... shes a flight attendant for one of the Big 3 airlines. The reason she told me when I called BS that it would interfere with the plane was that its so everyone pays attention to the flight attendants while they give their safety speech that they're required by law to give at the onset of each flight. Should there be an emergency, everyone needs to know what to do. If you fly as much as I do, you can recite the brief in your sleep but not everyone can.As far as bags and electronics stowed during takeoff and landing (and sometimes during turbulence), think of it this way: in the event of a crash, anything not secured is now a projectile that will continue with the same speed that it had when the airplane was moving. An object in motion stays in motion, just because its stationary from your perspective doesn't mean its not moving. Everything in the plane is moving at cruising speed, including you. When a plane crashes and comes to a stop, everything that's secured stops as well. Everything that isn't secure continues to move at the former speed of the plane in the same direction the plane was previously traveling. Do you want someone's iPhone or iPad or backpack hitting you in the head at up to 855 MPH? Didn't think so.
    • RyanRyan Posts: 260
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      I've always wondered this too. This is my theory. Airlines want your full attention during the safety presentation at the beginning of every flight. If you don't pay attention and don't know what to do during an emergency, some idiot will try to sue the airline for not having a better safety plan.
    • AzuresAzures Posts: 22
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      Hmmm... Although I don't mind putting my iPhone away during takeoff or landings, I've alwayse wondered... How many people actually turn their device OFF? That doesn't mean standby / sleep mode, but off. Most people just put theire phones in theire pocket with even putting it into 'airplane mode.' Either way you look at it, it seems like that rule is being followed... But not really.
    • AzuresAzures Posts: 22
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      ^ without Yeah I can't spell either lol
    • DGDG Posts: 16
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      Flying isn't a fucking privalage - ass.Just like wasn't isn't. It's travel. And this devices do NOTHING to harm the plane or the people on them. No one even turns them off anyway. Of they were an real life issue. Do you think we would be able to bring them at all?? Fucking twit.
    • MichaelMichael Posts: 316
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      A statement of not knowing why such individuals can't leave on their devices during take off or landing are most likely the same individuals that helped passed a ruling to ban the use of devices while operating a motor vehicle. A question of safety brings turmoil and defiance. People have to die in order to make a point than the gov gets involved and passes a more rediculous ruling. It's 10 min peeps. Go with it or be banned. They banned smoking on flights they'll ban devices as well. Seriously, it's a rediculous argument.
    • VaNNzVaNNz Posts: 1
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      Is one of those scenarios inside a plane taking off or landing? If not, then you can shut your mouth.....
    • KeyKey Posts: 202
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      btw, #1 was proved to be false on Myth Busters....might wanna pick a different scenario
    • DkhanDkhan Posts: 24
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      I used to travel weekly for work and I asked a pilot why you must turn off your phone, laptop, ipad, etc during landing.... He gave a couple reasons, none of which were because it would interfere with the plane.1) If your laptop is sitting in your lap and I have to hit the breaks really hard, it could knock it the ground and break it, or even worse you fly forward in a sudden stop and the laptop acts as wedge when you make impact crushing or killing you.2) Again... sudden stop and whee there goes (insert heavy object here) and it flies around the cabin, or at the least out of your hand into the back of the head of the person in front of you and that person then sues, you, the airline, the airport, the Wright brothers for inventing the airplane, and the red hot chili peppers for making a song called "aeroplane"
    • I know this...I know this... Posts: 15
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      People don't complain about your e-cigarette because they're probably afraid that you're going to give them aids.....Seriously, you highly frequently have aids....
    • I know this...I know this... Posts: 15
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      Ha! nicely done!I was going to comment on him being another 'Expert' but I think you nailed it for us, thanks.
    • I know this...I know this... Posts: 15
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      Ha! Great story...My favorite part was how one might care about a flying iPad after crashing at 855 MPH.....I'm pretty sure I'd me more interested in pulling my legs out of my back than caring about a flying iPad that may hit me long after I'm already a goner....
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